From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 25 01:23:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040E716A41F for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:23:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B2243D45 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (patr530-a021.otenet.gr [212.205.215.21]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id jBP1MuqZ016855; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 03:23:04 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 35F82116C5; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 03:21:43 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 03:21:43 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Danial Thom Message-ID: <20051225012143.GD1367@flame.pc> References: <200512241219.12940.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20051224220153.82566.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051224220153.82566.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Miguel Saturnino , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:23:12 -0000 On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom wrote: > Don Hinton wrote: > > For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, > > and infinitely cheaper. > > Considering that WinXP usually comes on the computer, I don't see how > "installing and configuring FreeBSD" can be easier than having to do > nothing at all? Windows XP comes preinstalled, yes. Not "preconfigured" too. It so happens that configuring a Windows XP system to match one's preferences has the potential to: a) Screw the machine up so completely and utterly that a reinstall is required. b) Take a lot of time. A huge lot of time, because of all the different 'driver' installation processes. On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom wrote: > Don Hinton wrote: > > > 2) General productivity advantages in a typical day. ie: what can > > > you do with FreeBSD that you can't do in WinXP, and what is faster > > > or more productive in FreeBSD > > > > Depends on what you use it for. I'm a C++ developer, and have a > > need to examine/search/manipulate text files quite often, Windows, > > out of the box, is inappropriate for this type of work. I'd have to > > install all sorts of applications, e.g., cygwin, et al, to get the > > applications/capabilities that come "out of the box" on a typical > > *nix system, FreeBSD, Linux, etc... > > > > I'm a developer also, but I don't use the FreeBSD desktop for this, I > log into my freeBSD server with my desktop browser or telnet/ssh. I > don't see how such things are relevent to using one desktop over the > other. Why should you have to use remote SSH to a second system, when you can just pop up an xterm and instantly have all the power of the tools you actually *do* use today too? > I don't expect you to care, but saying you "prefer FreeBSD" and saying > "FreeBSD is better" are different animals. I just wanted to know what > you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already > know what I can do with Windows that I can't do with FreeBSD. There are a lot of things that can be done with FreeBSD, which are practically impossible or very confusing in Windows. Then there's also the stability issue :)