From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 7 23:23:49 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B4E55322D for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DtyGD06Xvz4mSs for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D47A390B49 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 127NNf0d053714 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:41 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 127NNfqa053711 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:41 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:23:41 +0000 (UTC) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ports git and Xorg -- is help on the way Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DtyGD06Xvz4mSs X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@fledge.watson.org has no SPF policy when checking 204.107.128.30) smtp.mailfrom=doug@fledge.watson.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.28 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.72)[-0.723]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[204.107.128.30:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[204.107.128.30:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 23:23:51 -0000 A recent thread leads to this URL: https://github.com/bsdimp/freebsd-git-docs#readme. Which has in it The ports repository The ports repository has all the files we use to generate our packages. It's structure is currently being debated. I hope this change would allow earlier versions of the ports tree to be available. I recently tried to update a laptop from 11.3 --> 12.2 completely rendering this system unusable. I know caveat emptor is the name of the ports game and I know how to protect against this in the future using Poudriere. Since 9.x updating has lulled me into just thinking things would work. Xorg is the poster project for this, but there are other reasons for the need to install a port/package on an older system. I would hope that the discussions on the structure of the ports repository would include be ability to either get a package or at least to build a port from at least the previous version of FreeBSD.