From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 17:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1BD37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (m017-200.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.17.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762B343F75 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vance@aurema.com) Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id h670NnMl020230; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:49 +1000 (EST) Received: (from vance@localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au id h670NldM020228; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:47 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:23:47 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: Thomas Dickey Message-ID: <20030707002347.GC5141@aurema.com> References: <3F08B199.3050409@comcast.net> <3F08B79B.2040805@gmx.net> <20030707001443.GA1530@invisible-island.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030707001443.GA1530@invisible-island.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: "Myron J. Mayfield" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/shm X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:23:59 -0000 On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:14:44PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: : On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: : > Myron J. Mayfield wrote: : > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried : > >adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any : > : > For some unexcused reason there is the trend in Linux to represent : > everything as kind of a wired half finished pseudo file system. /proc pipe : > devicefs sysctl and so on... The list is really long. Even shared memmory is : > mapped to ehrm.... a filesystem. This is "expected" to be mounted at : > /dev/shm by the system. You can't expect FreeBSD to follow this path... : : Linux isn't the only system that does this (learn a little, criticize less). If you're talking about Plan 9 or Inferno, they at least have a history of finishing their filesystems and understanding why it's done that way. If Linux attempts to copy without understanding, and doesn't complete the job, it doesn't imply that the original idea was a Bad Thing, only that the implementation sucks. -- Christopher Vance