From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 8 03:37:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F5F16A41C for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D524243D1D for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net ([68.254.53.94]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10 milter /8.12.10) with ESMTP id j583bWPA067942; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:37:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (monolith.digitalarcadia.net [10.0.1.74]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC77F1ED980; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:38:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42A667FF.6070805@digitalarcadia.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:37:35 -0500 From: Duo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Hurd References: <42A4FD3F.70407@pacific.net.sg> <44y89mb1e0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050607175303.GA96525@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42A62D8D.2020100@digitalarcadia.net> <30399E44-07C0-4F3B-9B1C-9F4B2E020E9C@HiWAAY.net> <42A6617A.5010908@sasktel.net> In-Reply-To: <42A6617A.5010908@sasktel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Kelly , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 03:37:42 -0000 Stephen Hurd wrote: > David Kelly wrote: > > >> Currently the same thing holds true for internal CD/DVD drives. But >> put the same non-Apple drive on Firewire and MacOS is happy with it. > > > You must be dealing with an older "originally" than I. I've replaced > the 40MB HD in an SE/30 with a 700-oddMB IBM one from a PS/2 with no > issues. Ditto for a pair of uh... *goes and looks* IIci macs. Are we > talking way back when Apple didn't use standard SCSI-1 (Which, I think > is because there was no formal standard)? May as well complain that > you couldn't replace the "non-standard" 800k floppy with a "standard" > 720k one. Indeed, as I said before, those days have been long gone, for many a moon. And, what's more, Stephens SE/30 should run System 7.5 (8 even?...been awhile since I worked in the old OS's) which means, it should be able to deal with fairly large drives, larger if it can deal with HFS+. So, not even really a driver issue there, its one of disk format. > .... but I seem to recall that the Macs that ship with SCSI > support use an Adaptec chipset... And, id also like to add...I typically had less of a problem with Adaptec stuff with Macs...than I did with PC's. Typically, adaptec stuff ran fairly well on Macs. But, I digress. > Thank goodness, since the stock ones are so terrible. Heh, maybe now we can get a stock two button mouse. =) -- Duo.