From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 20:54:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A374B61 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@catnook.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5217A20A4 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id g10so9169460pdj.26 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sctys5IwB9B/Fml1DbXOawMugxKhzdlVwhS+IoFt5Ww=; b=Ew8exNeDzvG9N2cAzp6hRd3psWIYI6fKOOlDPMpmqKIhnKt481kZTHsVZklDO3Df67 ol0rQP37B+uXTzg7f76Yd15jF4A/t1kQT0N+3ZRbOxrpzlgCXpMMjEagFSPluqoO7Haf Fcmfn4pZTDkUgXZZgtRDOBV6dQTomn/mr2sfdZnb0cBsOa9QRvX3qShaEykE7xhJbCTZ r5LBVLhwydhfF9GO8yxvIKHWOt5FkDLEnzWExZrNIp0OQC1qO2Zm7QNuw6mqEXHnEpkb 7qaM9ygH/yKy4ewFxEkca/5Npt61+z4Id3nKTyts/NpU4WcW2DsL+fJtnTmHKHX75V+r ZJgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmtHjv8AQCYZN0w2Y1mUju2DsNm6Lg9h833HNypKZisvnwsrpMi69cU1qTvcOLoei40vPXL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.252.68 with SMTP id zq4mr4093895pbc.154.1381265657001; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.36 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.36 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201310082037.r98Kb4JA058190@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <201310082037.r98Kb4JA058190@slippy.cwsent.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:54:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs From: Jos Backus To: Cy Schubert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Lyndon Nerenberg X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:54:24 -0000 On Oct 8, 2013 1:37 PM, "Cy Schubert" wrote: > > In message om> > , Jos Backus writes: > > On Oct 7, 2013 7:31 PM, "Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote: > > > > > > Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? > > > > > > The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their > > technical case. > > > > Perhaps slightly off-topic, but how about we move into the 21st century and > > import the 2-clause BSD-licensed Fossil? > > > > http://www.fossil-scm.org/ > > > > Not RCS, I know, but vastly more useful. > > Bikeshed alert. Let's not let this discussion go sideways. > > Seriously, it's not the same. To import something different doesn't replace > what was removed. We have two options. Put it back, or something like it, > e.g. OpenRCS, back, or put it in ports. Personally I don't think it matters > where it lives as long as the same functionality is there. Part of the argument seems to be about improving out of the box functionality and experience. Fossil would help there. But I agree, change is hard, and it has a cost for sure. Sorry for the distraction. Jos