From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 08:12:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B44C16A479 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA1E13C46E for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h28so382902wxd for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n5d0Bf+2yhs2NmpPbpCuaP2qjeu0k9EWNcULFnWF9bbxg3kZTnjUtXwHevy1YFjPcN2nr+zAfB4QOC5Iir3ecxpxF3Vxpbwnn3bfKdbJih1Kri5dPkAWRlhNdTwYgk59tCmUxKAdmko9aXBAOm99JFUhln0+woGKAhGJ0VKseyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M+YSts/UV6TRZq0DspBwn6h2lopEnxklGXdheWA93YMVLlxR9Sw8CNlAzDrR89c+9xDwbjpJzMs5QsLrIycemSQE4tYsdaGDImX3geNCxu9pw1OwwaYbpnF98h3tsaXs1F9ycQ07jZl0xigAQ3ADBQDoVeJ1nIEfBndndPcMlV4= Received: by 10.82.134.12 with SMTP id h12mr790448bud.1180685555768; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 01:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 03:12:35 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070530003458.GB10306@parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070527215727.GD67158@lassie.student.utwente.nl> <20070528003710.GB13910@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20070528005004.GA45015@kobe.laptop> <20070528074747.GA81264@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <20070528204919.GA10763@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20070529180342.GA6492@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <20070529185224.GF8255@soaustin.net> <20070530003458.GB10306@parts-unknown.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg 7.2 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:12:37 -0000 On 29/05/07, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2007 13:52:24 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:03:42PM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > > This particular upgrade process has produced a great deal of strain on the > > ports committers and our users. Almost everyone has been incredibly patient > > as we try to get all the issues sorted out. I can only ask everybody else > > to try to do the same. > > > It's a tough upgrade. And looking at it from the perspective of someone > who was a programmer twenty-plus years ago, I would have to say that it is > somewhat amazing that this upgrade is as smooth as it was. > > It could have been a *lot* worse. > > One of the problems I think I had was that I jumped into the upgrade at the > same time as everyone else, and that I failed to get all the packages on the > first try. So I went through a couple iterations of portmanager -f -u -y to > get everything, I think. > > I now have a functioning Xorg 7.2, but I still get an error whenever I or any > of my port upgrade tools hits xorg-libraries. I have included the UPDATE_XORG > (or whatever) variable both in /etc/make.conf and in the environment whenever > I run these tools. The result is always the same, an error during make fetch > saying I need to see /usr/ports/UPGRADING that doesn't really tell me how to > deal with an already borked upgrade. > > I'm not terribly worried about it; as I said, I have a functioning system, and > I must *somehow* have gotten xorg-libraries reinstalled because I actually > deleted that package (using pkg_delete) along the way. I'm guessing it reacts > even to the presence of the sym-link for /usr/X11R6. Hrm, here (FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Mon May 21 21:45:02 CDT 2007) the presence of a symlink /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local obviates the need to setenv XORG_UPGRADE yes . . . though overall, the build tree does seem rather fragile WRT that point. I shouldn't take issue with the handholding, probably, since it likely reduced mailinglist noise by several orders of magnitude, but the spicy flavour of looming danger and deleted files is what draws me to this silly operating system. Appearanly other people love their safety more than their freedom :( -- --