From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 6 07:57:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B0C106568F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884F18FC1D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:01 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=X0SxnWw+C3wXrcfJNlS0Kf0u6Dl2O4LJ7JzzJKTuoj4KrSk8tSnShDEecsB30FMj1PeBzvAzN/B0OwanBsZeioJx3Ipww0cPGcPXA4gOn//v56dSE+nmitmbYTddn77F; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:50060) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MYxqO-000ENE-CP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:57:00 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> In-Reply-To: <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:57:04 -0000 On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: > > In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement > in the FreeBSD corner. > What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use > FreeBSD. [snip] > To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: > 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) > 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. > And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the > user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. This is what a couple of projects are already doing. PC-BSD springs to mind - I can't remember what the other one is called. PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified package manager. Jonathan