From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 21:00:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2ED116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:00:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206B43D54 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1044505F; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:00:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2684505E; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:00:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:59:35 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1406761310.20050321215935@rulez.sk> To: Ken Smith , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111436370.10464.63.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <20050321030332.GA46390@bloom.cse.buffalo.edu> <1113911942.20050321210457@rulez.sk> <1111436370.10464.63.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="----------6C1BEBDC76EDED" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.581 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, BAYES_00, PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Spam-Level: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1 Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:00:37 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. ------------6C1BEBDC76EDED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ken, Monday, March 21, 2005, 9:19:30 PM, you wrote about: > On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 21:04 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >> Hello Ken, >> ok, since there is official anouncement and there are already posted >> some information to news servers like osnews, i think we should update >> newvers.sh so people who download BETA1 build wouldn't be confused >> with -PRERELEASE branch. >> > Thanks for the suggestion but we can't. Lots and lots and lots of past > experience has shown us that it really freaks some people out if > newvers.sh on a RELENG_X branch says anything other than -STABLE, > -PRERELEASE, or -RELEASE. ok, if FreeBSD-team's experience is that it's better keeping -PRERELEASE in BETAx builds, keep it, but I personally think that people who download BETA builds shouldn't be misinformed with uname's output that they are using -PRERELEASE build. another thing is that when there will be more BETAs, it will be harder to track bugs, because people reporting them will everytime send that it appears in -PRERELEASE no matter how old their build is... > Just before the Release Candidates we will create the RELENG_5_4 branch > and the RCs will be based on that. Once that's done we are free to name > that RELENG_5_4 branch "-RC1", "-RC2", etc. But doing that sort of > thing on the RELENG_X branches has caused lots of panic-stricken email > from people who believe the RELENG_X branches are "stable branches" and > therefore should never have words like "-BETA" associated with them. well, people tracking RELENG_X should know, that -STABLE branch isn't always so stable as they think it is, or as they expect it, therefore -BETAx in uname's output shouldn't bring those paniced e-mails :) --=20 Best regards +----------=3D=3D/\/\=3D=3D----------+ FreeBSD | DanGer | (__) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \\\'',) Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | \/ \ ^ To +----------=3D=3D\/\/=3D=3D----------+ .\._/_) Serve [ How about washing his underwear in jalapena pepper juice? ] ------------6C1BEBDC76EDED--