From nobody Thu Aug 4 10:22:00 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Lz4XY65ffz4Yf9f for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 10:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Lz4XX49B2z3qgL for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 10:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Lz4XV3Hwtz9t31 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 10:22:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1659608522; bh=KE+VkNCgjZGVGn45cvIZ7JHu7zHfc1DGbku/Dz2iEZI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=MfhDB/V2RVMsEQWtMFnPYfJLEYEGS80ttvJ3FnjOF0LMkGgZNbwY/ObdQaqFd0cF7 PwL1WVaeUAbX7T+lZB1tSc4ueS3opxNazWIy2XcQx0ufo+uGRsxjb36hNUaqH34H12 TgJexlUyJrCFnFyW2YQLyK4lRV4uDnyjLQwnDnSI= X-Riseup-User-ID: 85C7D5E72AF836C6BD4335E47EC09FC146E08BF669A154CDA8DFD28769480E85 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Lz4XT6tsDz1ySb for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 10:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 12:22:00 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAO on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20220804122200.6a77ba8e@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <0a25da92-9009-402c-88e5-8d8811389cd1@edison> <20220804105350.5bc5125d@archlinux> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Lz4XX49B2z3qgL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b="MfhDB/V2"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 12:03:20 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >What about if one doesn't have the "budget" for those proprietary >solutions? I suppose FLOSS works too. Hi, FLOSS does work, too, but as an example and there are way more examples I could provide, it's quite expensive to rent a recording hall and a brass band and to own a few decent microphones, to get something better than https://audiomodeling.com/media/?mgi_104=21246/birdland-by-cristiano-alberghini-with-swam-brass-and-saxophones all done with instrument modeling. At least you can do this with proprietary software, but you can't do this with sound samplers available for Linux or FreeBSD and such modeling software doesn't exist for Linux or FreeBSD. Even if you won't record, just compose, but hear what you compose, with modeling you can simulate a lot, that is not that easy to achieve with expensive sample libraries. Btw. when using sound samplers instead of modeling you still need to buy those libraries for FLOSS, too. Most, if not all free sample libraries are crap. For my home studio in a rental apartment this instrument modeling software is some of the software I'm using. OTOH for electric guitar recordings I tested a lot amp modeling software (including Linux amp modeling software), but I'm still in favour of recording a guitar amp at household noise level using decent microphones. For my home studio I'm using an iPadPro. The iPad versions of software are less expensive than the desktop versions, but the iPad sequencers and audio recorders are not where the desktop versions are. I don't try to make a living with music anymore, hence I can use an iPad instead of a desktop computer. The iPad is still way, way, way better than a Linux desktop computer. Btw. the professional RME sound card I'm using with my Linux desktop computer (not a pro-sumer, a professional grade sound card) is not well supported by FLOSS operating systems. There's no support for FLOSS by RME at all. Keep in mind, "professional" is always expensive. A home appliance coffee brewer might be able to make a coffee as good as made with a professional coffee brewer. If you use both machines in a professional way, you need to take into account the time it is used each day, how long it takes to clean the machine, the professional machine is less expensive in the end, let alone that professional tools can be a write-off. Regards, Ralf PS: When using FLOSS, than I would avoid FreeBSD and Ubuntu Studio. Another Ubuntu flavour might be ok, at least it was ok before Ubuntu made a step into the snap container approach direction. I can't comment on current Ubuntu releases. I can't comment on http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ either, but I suspect it's worth trying, for somebody who is fine with the RPM package management based distro. I'm in favour of https://archlinux.org/ . I'm very seldom using Linux for music, most of the time I'm using an iPad Pro. Btw. it's also possible to use other iPads, but than it's another step away from "professional".