From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 18:37:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D02D16A425; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:37:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail6.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2744003; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 7114863 for multiple; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0RER9YS051089; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:27:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:27:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060125201450.GE25397@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <20060127085653.GA51554@uk.tiscali.com> <43D9E1D2.6060207@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <43D9E1D2.6060207@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601270927.33772.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1253/Fri Jan 27 05:10:20 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1653887525 Cc: John-Mark Gurney , current@freebsd.org, Brian Candler , Mike Jakubik , arch@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: [TEST/REVIEW] CPU accounting patches X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:37:19 -0000 On Friday 27 January 2006 04:03, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Brian Candler wrote: > > I guess this is OK, *if* you trust the power management system to do its > > job properly. Unfortunately I have very bad experiences of such things. > > In many cases I've ended up turning off power management completely and > > locking everything at max clock speed. Mind you, if I do that, anything > > you do with scaling factors isn't going to affect me, so actually I don't > > really care. I'll shut up now :-) > > Let's not forget, FreeBSD is really a server OS. Who in their right mind > uses power saving features on a server? It sounds nice in theory, but > doesn't work as well. People with lots and lots of servers who need to keep the entire power load down to avoid overloading their power source. Also, said people might care about the cost of their power bills. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org