Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Woodman <keith@lightningweb.com> To: Steve Friedrich <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Boot disk Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981215144127.25791A-100000@nefertiti.lightningweb.com> In-Reply-To: <199812152239.RAA28663@laker.net>
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Let's end this with understanding that I don't intend to tick anyone off. Everything you say in here is true. My appologise for the misunderstanding. It has taken me all but an hour to find the wealth of help simply from this mailing list. I hope it's not due simply to the occurance of my sniping back at phrases people posted that seemed to be snipping at the heels.. So,, Thank you all for the info. Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Woodman Technical Coordinator Keith@lightningweb.com Lightningweb LLC pid 7962 (sniffit), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Steve Friedrich wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:08:07 -0500, Steve Friedrich wrote: > > >>My name is not " hey buddy " . > > This is my second post, and I don't want to look like I'm picking on > you, but I wanted to respond to this in my original reply, but forgot. > > I don't know why that hit a nerver, but I think it's a *valid* part of > Oleg's reply. Let me explain. If I call Mocrosoft's 900 number (and of > course, get put on hold for hours), I would expect a more *formal* > salutation than this because we (Microsoft and I) have a *business* > relationship (I'm a paying customer and that better count for > something). But with FreeBSD, especially in terms of support, no such > relationship exists. FreeBSD is free. You're not a paying customer > (yea, I know you can buy FreeBSD in a book or on CDs and it will cost > you real money, but their promise to support you is limited to problems > with the media, etc., since you're really only paying for the delivery > vehicle and/or the printing). When you seek freebsd support, you are > asking the world's population at large. It's very akin to walking into > a town square somewhere and asking for someone to give you directions > (so you might get a "hey, buddy" in this informal environment). They > are not on your payroll, and you have absolutely no right to expect any > help whatsoever. They have no vested financial interest (I can probably > count on two hands the number of people making money directly from > FreeBSD, and they're probably all employees of Walnut Creek, with the > noted exception of Greg Lehey, who makes a little money from book > sales). There are of course, people making money *with* FreeBSD, as > VARs, etc., but they make money from their own customer base and have > no financial interest in supporting you, they do it out of grace. They > are un-paid volunteers. > > When you call Red-Hat, you need to pay if you want to *expect* an > answer. Otherwise, you must take whatever help people are willing to > give for free. Welcome to the world of free software. But if you don't > tick people off, you'll get a wealth of answer/responses because these > guys *love* this stuff. And they love to share their knowledge. > > BTW, the installation over the net is *much* longer for me, since I > have a 56K modem (which actually connects at around 44-48K). I just > leave my machine on overnight, which is on a UPS, and it's done when I > wake). Count your blessings with the T3... > > > Steve Friedrich > Viva la FreeBSD!! > Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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