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Date:      Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:41:20 -0800
From:      Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org>
To:        Tim Kientzle <kientzle@acm.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RCng Awkwardness
Message-ID:  <20021031004120.GE30253@roark.gnf.org>
In-Reply-To: <3DC05BF4.8050203@acm.org>
References:  <3DC03815.2050003@acm.org> <20021030200055.GA30253@roark.gnf.org> <3DC05BF4.8050203@acm.org>

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:23:48PM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> Gordon Tetlow wrote:
>=20
> >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:50:45AM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> >
> >>I find the standard arguments used by RCng quite
> >>awkward.  In particular, ... "/etc/rc.d/nfsd stop" does
> >>not actually stop the nfsd process. ...
> >
> >... I've found this behavior to be quite annoying. I'll
> >see if I can put something together. If you want to help me out and
> >put together the patches, I'd be more than happy to commit them.
>=20
>=20
> I have something partly sketched out, but
> it still needs some work.  I can
> send you something in the next
> couple of days to look at.
>=20
> I see two awkward issues:
>=20
> * Is it necessary to distinguish 'stop'
>   (unconditional stop) from 'shutdown'
>   (stop only if enabled)??
>=20
>   Seems that at system shutdown you want
>   everything to be taken down, regardless
>   of whether it was brought up at boot
>   or brought up manually post-boot.
>   The unconditional 'stop' seems to be
>   all that's needed.

I agree, but can you make it use shutdown and just alias it to stop?
This will be just in case we see a new need for a special shutdown case.

> * Local rc scripts (in /usr/local/etc/rc.d)
>   will still get run with a 'start'
>   argument, while system scripts in
>   /etc/rc.d will get a 'boot' argument.
>   That's a bit awkward, but still
>   reasonably consistent:  'start'
>   is still an unconditional operation.

That's fine. No big deal there.

-gordon

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