From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 10:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649CF37B401; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C484400B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from interjet.elischer.org ([12.233.125.100]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20030703175913013001jaole>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:59:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA78346; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:59:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Michael Smith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: acpi-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org cc: current@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 2381] Re: Updated ec-burst.diff patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:59:19 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Michael Smith wrote: > [...] > > No. > > The two are different things, although arguably there should be more > integration. > > The tunable mechanism exists to allow parameters to be set before the > kernel starts. > Things that are set with tunables tend to be things that used to be > statically compiled > into the kernel; they're not adjustable once the kernel's up and > running. > > It makes sense to export the values set by tunables into the sysctl > MIB, but by their > very nature they're not suitable for conversion to sysctls. > > = Mike So is what you are saying... "tuneables should be converted at boot to read-only sysctls?" I can imagine some things that could be changed again once running, so maybe it would not be a cast in iron thing...