From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Jan 2 11:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15117 for freebsd-arch-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15107 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA24583 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:59:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id TAA95798 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:59:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08975 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:50:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA20371 for freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:50:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA13318; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:43:31 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Message-ID: <19990102124331.02468@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:43:31 +0100 From: J Wunsch To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DEVFS, the time has come... Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <199901020438.VAA15410@mt.sri.com> <199901020455.UAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199901020455.UAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 08:55:55PM -0800 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Mike Smith wrote: > I was just discussing this with Eivind; I think that we can comfortably > cover every set of requirements with: > > - a kernel-wide default owner/group/permissions for new nodes, which > can be overridden by the device driver in response to eg. > configuration arguments or device-specific concerns. I think (and I know i'm not alone with this) that the kernel should have no further knowledge of UIDs and GIDs except UID/GID 0:0. Everything else violates the POLA in case someone edits her /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group (and I hope you don't suggest that the kernel might read those files ;-) [This is slightly on the side of the present discussion, but can serve as relevant background for those thinking of persistence. I'm unlikely to approve any follow-ups on this message. -EE] -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message