From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 20:17:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDA837B42A for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 17LEuv-0001Kc-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g5L3Gvj02623; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:16:57 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:03:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | hundred simulteneous connections) on my PII-300 but I wasn't able to | compile or run Microsoft clr on the same box. Anyway Java has at least 5 | more years in it, that's what pessimists are saying. Interesting. Verizon here in the states claim they moved all their online apps to .Net. I wonder what kind they are? On the other point... if .Net is bloated, and if Java only has 5 years at the worst, what could be next? I don't hear much about the 'next generation' of computing languages. They need to get web services to work well (which they can do with Java OR .Net) and then worry about the Next Big Thing (tm). Then again, web services have the potential to be just that. Once they work out the details. I've read the JAXR tutorial a dozen times, and I still can't get my config.xml to compile correctly. We need a way to extract a TENTATIVE web service definition from an interface. Sure, you can edit it, but at least it's a working point to start from. | When you need a program with complicated UI or some simple network | service and you need it *now* I think Java is and will remain a perfect | tool. I wish I could use Java at work. I used .Net to whip up a test container the other day. It might be bloated, but my machine doesn't care. But I was still longing for Java. | Not to mention academia: students can create sophisticated projects in | Java. In some other programming language you are lucky if you can | teach them how to make linked lists by the end of senior year :) I did a networking project recently where we had our choice of languages for a client/server example. If we chose Java, we had to implement a lot more features for that very reason: it's so amazingly easy to network. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message