From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 15 12:42:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20974 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (0@login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20910 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:41:50 GMT (envelope-from havardjv@gudmund.vgs.no) Received: from arwen.myst.no (pc34.bergen-pm2-1.eunet.no [193.75.12.41]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with ESMTP id VAA12079; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:41:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (hjv@localhost) by arwen.myst.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00315; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:30:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from havardjv@gudmund.vgs.no) X-Authentication-Warning: arwen.myst.no: hjv owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:30:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Haavard Vaagstoel X-Sender: hjv@arwen.myst.no To: Joey Garcia cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What do newbies want? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Joey Garcia wrote: > Coming from a GUI enviroment...(Windows)...I feel that GUI is very > important. Most of the stuff I do depends on a GUI enviroment. KDE is a > great enviroment for people migrating from Windows or something. It takes > some work to set up, and if you are compiling it from the source...then > you will need alot of spare time (unless you're on a Pentium II 333 or > something). > > Anyways, I agree with you...more GUI setup help would be good. I have > found that the easiest way to set up X is by using this program called > XF86Setup, because xf86config is just way too confusing. Ah, yes, XF86Setup is colorful, mouse controlled and probably more simple to understand right away if you're coming from MS Windows. There are downs of it, though. As far as I can recall, it has nowhere near the number of options found in xf86config (which, in turn, lacks many of the possible options that can be set in the XF86Config file manually). If GUI setup tools shall really be a help to people, they need to offer them the lot -- they must give the opportunity to set any option that for instance can be set by modifying the config files. In short, they must be "good enough". If they are not, we stand the risk that these tools will rather limit the users control of his system, than making it more easy. -- Haavard Vaagstoel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message