From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 16 20:08:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E85516A4CE for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vmx2.skoleetaten.oslo.no (vmx2.ude.oslo.no [193.156.192.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7675C43D31 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:08:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shamz@localhost.ude.oslo.no) Received: from smtp.skoleetaten.oslo.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) AFA67792F2 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ude.oslo.no (nevada.ude.oslo.no [193.156.192.131]) 7AB82792C4 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ude.oslo.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i7GK8VMN033494 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shamz@localhost.ude.oslo.no) Received: (from shamz@localhost) by localhost.ude.oslo.no (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7GK8PTk033493 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shamz) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:25 +0200 From: Shaun Jurrens To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040816200825.GL61024@nevada.ude.oslo.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NZiXfHLGvOGtDZMn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:55:45 +0000 Subject: Re: RFC: Alternate patch to have true new-style rc.d scripts in ports (without touching localpkg) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:08:34 -0000 --NZiXfHLGvOGtDZMn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (written from the non-subscribing ranks) Guys, while all of us appreciate the effort, leave the separation between system and 3rd party packages alone. For the less than 1% exceptions, we don't need uncontrollable growth of / . I know there's a lot of OS's that do it, but it's not any better, and breaks a lot of the administration simplicity that FreeBSD has to offer. (minimal installs with nfs /usr/local, for example) A class of ports that _has_ to have configs or startup scripts in /etc could be made (I'm not volunteering, although I should, because I'll spend the rest of my days cursing your existance with this move, just don't have the time atm) and those could pop up in /etc/init.d/local (or whatever the= =20 beast has to be called to be sufficiently different but the same as the res= t=20 of the SysV world) or /etc/rc.d/local/ with hardlinks to whatever other=20 runlevels or degrees of order you need. Really, I appreciate the effort at making it easier to stop and start all services and to have a system of ordering and dependency as well as the=20 cooperation with other BSD's, but don't make it perfect at the cost of=20 breaking everything else. You've done a great job, now quit while you're= =20 ahead. I'll leave the paint and brush ready for the next guy... hope he likes gree= n. --=20 Med vennlig hilsen/Sincerely, Shaun D. Jurrens Drift og Sikkerhetskonsulent IKT-Avdeling Oslo Utdanningsetaten gpg key fingerprint: 007A B6BD 8B1B BAB9 C583 2D19 3A7F 4A3E F83E 84AE --NZiXfHLGvOGtDZMn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBIRQ5On9KPvg+hK4RAhgOAJ42xnnW+DlCMRzF1y9bE9D2pVdGUgCdGwZQ vsL+MTA2tLlBjlel1dHOCCM= =R46p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NZiXfHLGvOGtDZMn--