From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Apr 17 04:22:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAF0D41A3B for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmytro@posteo.net) Received: from mout02.posteo.de (mout02.posteo.de [185.67.36.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4023A100A for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmytro@posteo.net) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EFEC20A85 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 06:22:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3w5w8g5Vp7zyny; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 06:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 07:22:26 +0300 From: Dmytro Bilokha To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need for commit (new port) Message-ID: <20170417042225.GA2618@wstan> References: <20170416173109.GA3679@wstan> <20170416201106.GB74780@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170416201106.GB74780@home.opsec.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:22:32 -0000 On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:11:07PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! > >> May some kind committer commit the new port: >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215708 >> >> It is a port for the Payara Application Service (http://www.payara.fish/) >> which is derived from the Glassfish (https://glassfish.java.net/). > >Done. May I ask about the difference between glassfish (now at 4.1.2 >upstream, 4.1 in the ports), wildfly, jboss and all the other EEs out >there ? > Thank you very much! As far as I understand, situation with Java EE application servers is following: Each Java EE application server is emplementation of standards. So, theoretically, they should be more or less equal. But, always there are some aspects/features not covered by standards (like clustering, configuration, deployment procedure, etc). And these features are implemented in different ways by each application server. Also, licensing is different (LGPL/GPL/CDDL...). Also: - JBoss has no free version anymore, only payed subscription. Its free version renamed to WildFly. - Wildfly is evolving very fast, but not always stable and lacks commercial support (instead JBoss is proposed). - Glassfish is free and widely used, but Oracle has dropped commercial support for it and its feature is not clear for me. Oracle got it from Sun, but they also have their own application server - WebLogic which is proprietary. Who knows, will they support both Glassfish and WebLogic or just drop Glassfish in few years. - After Oracle dropped Glassfish commercial support some company created fork named Payara. It is almost the same as Glassfish, but with commercial support available, some features added, regular security patches and bugfixes. >I really doubt that there's so much improvement over 110M+ large >distfiles that each of those EE java blobs can bring ? > >Wouldn't it be sensible to just fix others instead of re-inventing >the wheel all over ? > For people who activly use these EE technologies, difference between application servers really matter. I agree with you, it would be nice to have only one Java EE application server which is free, open-source, the best of the best and fits everyone. But, I am in doubt this will happen in this century. >-- >pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dmytro Bilokha dmytro@posteo.net +38-050-607-41-43