From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 7 19:56:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA16787 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16775 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA00728 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Lamb.net [207.90.181.2]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.5/20.74.3.14) with ESMTP id NAA01191; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (8.8.5/8.7.6) id NAA15100; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199703072142.NAA15100@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> Subject: Re: spatter.freebsd.org halted. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5346.857743163@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 7, 97 05:59:23 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > where are the CTM deltas going to be generated now ? > > Not sure yet. > > > what's a new disk cost ? I might make a contribution to the Inc. :) > > Actually, I've had enough offers of replacement disks that I'm > starting to think seriously of widening this to encompass another > long-standing requirement of the project, namely our need for a nice > fileserver class machine to upgrade freefall as "pointbox" of the > project. The machine which is now actually freefall really needs to > retire and become a 2nd-tier service machine, it being an overloaded > P5/90 with aging disks and insufficient memory. It's really done a > great job over the last 3+ years, but lack of sufficient disk and > compute resources has really limited the kinds of things which can be > done with strictly project resources - we don't even have enough > diskspace to keep both the OpenBSD and NetBSD sources online right > now. > > If I could get various hardware donors here to commit to the following > component list: > > 1 P6/200 CPU w/256K cache > 1 Intel Venus Motherboard > 4 16MB SIMMS > 1 Adaptec 2940 or NCR/Symbios PCI controller. > 1 Compex ENET32/PCI ethernet controller or similar DC21041 based NIC. > > I think the rest could be shuffled together here at Walnut Creek > CDROM. I've already got 3 tentative offers for replacement 4GB > drives, and if even 2 of them pan out then we would have a pretty good > start. Since we'd be pretty much cleaning house all around in such a > scenario, we also have a 4Gb drive in thud which could possibly be > swapped for a smaller drive and freefall's new Atlas-II has proven to > be a little problematic there and probably needs to be swapped out > anyway. Assuming that freefall's drive worked better in a different > configuration (and that wouldn't surprise me), that would bring us up > to 16GB of storage, a pretty healthy fileserver and possibly one > capable of also doing some interesting CCD things to speed up access > to the CVS master repository (assuming that ccd is currently trusted > enough for these kinds of applications, of course :). > > If everyone who's committed to providing a disk actually does, and > that would give me 6 4GB drives including the 2 already here, then I > would also hit Walnut Creek CDROM up for this fileserver chassis which > they just happen to have sitting around. :) > > The machine which is now freefall could become a combined spatter/thud > sort of box, a P5/90 still being quite a bit nicer for actually doing > things than a 486/DX2 (which both spatter and thud are). We've > already proven that the hardware is reliable, after all, and the > ex-freefall has 6Gb of usable space it could take with it for > mirroring and archival purposes. > > Having freefall be a P6/200 with more memory and lots of disk online > would be a real boost and something I've dreamed of doing for a long > time. Any nice donors out there share in this dream? :-) > > Jordan > ok, 4x32 MB and 4GB disk from me. Ulf. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net