From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 09:20:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D8F37B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.213.64.2] (firewall.tiadon.com [204.213.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C394943F75; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from rmc.tiadon.com by [204.213.64.2] ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:18:41 -0500 Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id M49FNLSD; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:20:55 -0500 Received: from firewall.tiadon.com ([204.213.65.193]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:20:56 -0500 Received: from [204.213.65.193] by firewall.tiadon.com via smtpd (for mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:18:38 -0500 Message-ID: <024001c335b5$83241ac0$c141d5cc@nitanjared> From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: , "Bill Moran" References: <3EEFC568.70900@potentialtech.com> <200306180409.h5I499Nm046192@bmah.dyndns.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:20:18 -0500 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice on how to straighten out a crappy ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:20:57 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Advice on how to straighten out a crappy ISP >> Does anyone have any suggestion on how I can get them to fix their >> worthless shit? I've tried being nice. I've tried being an asshole. >> I have nothing to threaten with, as there are no other high-speed >> providers in this area. >Interesting. This sounds very much like the > past two days of my life (perhaps longer), > except I'm on Comcast (formerly AT&T > Broadband Internet). They had the DNS > records for their outbound mail relays messed > up such that the A and PTR records for any > given relay machine were not consistent. This > makes sending to the FreeBSD.org machines > problematic. I have been having various > problems with ATTBI's outbound > mail relays off-and-on for over a year. > > I'm glad to hear your situation worked out finally. > > Bruce. My ISP's "main" SMTP box has no PTR records; I made an end run around them by using their firewall box instead...I even told one gal about it, recently, but so far, so good.... Kevin Kinsey