From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 5 20:39:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951ED16A4CE; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:39:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spiff.melthusia.org (spiff.melthusia.org [207.67.244.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD1E43D1F; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:39:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gtetlow@spiff.melthusia.org) Received: from spiff.melthusia.org (gtetlow@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spiff.melthusia.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i75KapGc093642; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gtetlow@spiff.melthusia.org) Received: (from gtetlow@localhost) by spiff.melthusia.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i75Kap4d093641; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gtetlow) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:36:51 -0700 From: Gordon Tetlow To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20040805203650.GN27045@spiff.melthusia.org> References: <20040804182321.GY991@funkthat.com> <20040804200535.GZ991@funkthat.com> <200408041711.33217.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RNRUMt0ZF5Yaq/Aq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408041711.33217.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: John-Mark Gurney cc: Garance A Drosihn cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: nextboot(8) was Re: install_and_reboot target for kernel's... X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 20:39:35 -0000 --RNRUMt0ZF5Yaq/Aq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 05:11:33PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 04 August 2004 04:05 pm, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > a) not everyone knows about nextboot, putting it in the makefile and > > documenting it will allow more people to know about it >=20 > That I debate. :) Having a bikeshed on arch@ might let more people know = about=20 > it, but documenting things doesn't always make them more widely known. = =20 > There's a reason they are called FAQs. Also, the intended audience for t= his=20 > target is mostly developers, and they probably already know about nextboo= t. As the author of the current incarnation of nextboot, I was surprised with the number of people on IRC that said things like "I wish I could boot a kernel for a single run, and if it crashed it would automagically revert to the previous kernel." Well, this is exactly what nexboot does since we have write support in the loader. So I think there are a fair number of developers that aren't familiar with what nextboot does. -gordon --RNRUMt0ZF5Yaq/Aq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBEppiRu2t9DV9ZfsRArf9AJ4+32m+7BbyJyfmevKW5GNrdkkcbQCgsZuC KBofVxJUeCHvi+QE5TvdqiE= =Gq5/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RNRUMt0ZF5Yaq/Aq--