From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 08:39:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7C616A417 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2D13C457 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUF00KAH6Q56ST0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0A8ddlR049869; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:39 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <88854.1199953554@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-id: <4785D9CB.5080909@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <88854.1199953554@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Dominic Fandrey , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:39:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <478556AD.6090400@bsdforen.de>, Dominic Fandrey writes: > >> The first problem is [...] > > No. > > The first problem FreeBSD has, is that the users do not financially > support enough full-time developers. There are some possible solutions to the lack of funding without having to ask corps for huge donations (they would actually improve the amount of contributed work also in all likellyhood.... see my blog http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php) > > That is also problem number 2, 3, 4 and probably up to around 10. > > There is no ill will in the FreeBSD developer community, if we could > do it better, we would. > > But the majority of us, spend our time doing other stuff for a living, > and as long as that is the case, FreeBSD plays second fiddle. > > Find a way to fix that, and there is no place FreeBSD couldn't go. > > Poul-Henning > - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhdnLjRvRjGmHRgQRAoIOAJ9GaIicmuZVrmSSbpN5wYxIzq6R8wCfdgrQ GcXteNS0qyiKCg7cCD/8yng= =YoXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----