From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 06:39:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981216A418 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A2B13C447 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so6801946pyb for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=56V2RcD/rIje9/Dvc9z8oBjNyJzEYHkultq3JMhRa0o=; b=hRbBvtcgXZMAQt2ighlETUBUTUFaq/QdqPrNio7mKKPOmtYICVL9zsCkd9N/CbEQTd+FRPY4AW57CfYHhpvnlR7MRZ5dUBZzuWl1u9xZAO7wgmm7iQ8nuGkW5PgDTgUdAuetexeyDGw7Ei0qzEPquhtZbTy2MYwBeX7i2uw5dR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SPn79GPmHb5mmX8XYGFIFrsBHRsWxhcnurJdkb83G8n8tMGeP0kaTCVbCzN2CzofVPgPBgHl4lpv4xlbyHGtJuohfbLSuFW/WZdyAiwm9jLJhnlL8aSZU1E0Zt3u6CLdCQS1nAjCckU1ukU4e2MCRo7RrPWavFsj5GbtLI1KFv4= Received: by 10.64.179.12 with SMTP id b12mr25122963qbf.1196663952396; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e16sm6765011qba.2007.12.02.22.39.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:39:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4753A48E.6000000@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:39:10 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel Mendez References: <4752827F.20902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Miguel Mendez wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > Hi, > >> As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is >> at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports >> system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the >> future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 >> years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot >> project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system >> (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own >> suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: > > I already replied to your questions in private but I wonder if you > took a look at pkgsrc and the enhancements the OpenBSD people have > done the pkg* commands and whether you think borrowing from them > would be useful. > I am purposelly not looking at any previous solutions right now... If and when it is determined that changes to the current system are needed I will look at them then for ideas of what has not worked. (like the Internet or other large complex systems we don't know "how" to make it we only know what doesn't work) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHU6SO358R5LPuPvsRAj2OAKDSH+7nff+SkHAyypYc3OjbyyYuXwCfehta 6PyrvPsFAduJXSBIkS1V8Nc= =1KAL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----