From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 22 16:49:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07488 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07477 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10262; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 17:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707222346.RAA10262@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Cc: dennis , Alex Belits , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT In-Reply-To: <199707222142.OAA03553@MindBender.serv.net> References: <3.0.32.19970722162211.00c60708@etinc.com> <199707222142.OAA03553@MindBender.serv.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I'm just using NT for web browsing and mail and I need to reboot > >it every other day or so (just gets real slow)...It MIGHT be easier to > >set up (I dont think it is....), but if something stops working you have > >to reinstall to get everything to work right again...its certainly much more > >difficult to fine tune. > > I would guess that you have software doing something stupid, or you > have something badly configured. Or using NT as a developer. ... > NT by itself (and NT with tons of development tools and such open) > runs for weeks at a time without reboots, for me, and thousands of > others. I once believed that. Recently I installed NT on a P6-200 box, and I can crash it almost at will. Also, Explorer misses files (which can you see exist with the DOS window), screen updates are lost, graphics updates are obnoxious, basically it's *NOWHERE* near as stable as the FreeBSD that used to run on it. :( I started asking around some of my 'NT' expert friends, and if you do 'development' on an NT box, it's *very* unstable. Normal users can take it out doing development, which *never* happens under unix. These folks have been doing NT development with pre-NT 3 betas, so are not new to this. But, the 'market' is in NT, so they stick with it and reboot their machines 3-4 times/day, which has been typical behavior for M$ OS's since time began. > Modern NT servers (as opposed to "workstations", which you > described) are every bit as stable as Unix servers, with months of > uptime. FYI... *Bwah, ha, ha ha* I'll bet (I know) you work for M$, but that's the funniest thing I've heard in awhile. Nate ps. NT 4.0 Workstation, ServicePack 3, + Java/Visual-Depth patch.