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Date:      Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:24:20 -0400
From:      Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Using -current on a Fujitsu Lifebook N5010 (no Atheros 802.11, no Ethernet, + hard freezes)
Message-ID:  <20040721102420.GE1009@green.homeunix.org>
In-Reply-To: <40FE1576.10206@elischer.org>
References:  <40FE0DF3.4030008@anobject.com> <40FE1576.10206@elischer.org>

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 12:04:22AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Jake Hamby wrote:
> > 3) Random freezes
> 
> >
> > After an average of 30-40 minutes of heavy usage, I get random system
> > freezes. I am typically running XFree86 and downloading something
> > or reading web pages at the time it happens. More disturbingly, I am
> > occasionally seeing files get renamed, for example
> > /usr/src/UPDATING.64BIT became /usr/src/UPDATING.64BTT. This happens
> > with or without WITNESS, with INVARIANTS enabled, with or without
> > ACPI, and with or without SMP. I am using SCHED_ULE and no
> > PREEMPTION.
> 
> you are not alone.. I think you just chose a bad moment to
> jump into -current
> :-/

Who else is getting random memory corruption?  I've only ever seen it
in my life with bad RAM/bad cooling, but this could be bad anything,
including something spamming random addresses with DMA.  The characters
'I' and 'T' are far enough apart such that I wouldn't expect a simple
memory error which usually seems to appear as a single bit flip.

I don't think this is normal at all.  Try burning memtest86 to a floppy
or CD to ascertain a a bit more about your hardware, first.  If it's a
piece of hardware randomly DMAing around, taht's certainly pretty
terrible.  It would be awesome if someone had a utility to map all of
the memory in a running system out into a format showing who allocated
it, and what it's doing (contigmalloc, malloc, zone, user, free, cached
memory information).  I would think if you knew the memory getting
corrupted and what was reasonably close to it, you could make some
guesses as to what's doing it.

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