From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jun 26 13:47:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from r4k.net (r4k.net [212.26.197.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864A837CE7F for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.r4k.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r4k.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A6B2302C; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:34:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from _@localhost) by shell.r4k.net (8.12.4/8.12.2/Submit) id g5QKYODo005393; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:34:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:34:24 +0200 From: Stephanie Wehner <_@r4k.net> To: Petr Swedock Cc: tstevenson@mavericck.com, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wow Message-ID: <20020626203424.GA4232@r4k.net> References: <200206261741.g5QHf3LI027927@cvs.openbsd.org> <867kklaneg.fsf@blade-runner.mit.edu> <1025118105.443.8.camel@ech.maverik.com> <864rfpalnc.fsf@blade-runner.mit.edu> <863cv9algf.fsf@blade-runner.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <863cv9algf.fsf@blade-runner.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 03:28:32PM -0400, Petr Swedock wrote: (now I normally try to stay out of flames, but this is just getting too silly today) > Have I been affected? Yes. I spent lots of time (and even some > lost sleep) trying to get a handle on the risk. Most of a work > day trying to track down and collate info to see if I was in > the crosshairs. That's a day I could have spent doing something > more productive. So I'd say I was affected. That wasn't his question, > tho', was it? So what ?? Please compare the time you spend today, with the time it would have taken you to write your own ssh client. They're generally doing a great job and certainly spent a lot of time now fixing problems. I think the appropriate thing to say is thank you. > Perhaps so. Perhaps not. If you're concerned that this is 'off-topic' > let me assure you that, while not technical, this is most certainly > topical to this list: it is a *security list*, not a 'jump-when-Theo > -says-jump-list'. And that's what I'm saying. If you don't think > that's topical to this list... erks. don't you think you're being a little paranoid, or haunted ? I don't think anyone said jump, but if you can't help yourself please do :) relax, Stephanie --<> _@r4k.net <>------------------<> FreeBSD <>------------------- #3 - Anime Law of Sonic Amplification, First Law of Anime Acoustics In space, loud sounds, like explosions, are even louder because there is no air to get in the way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message