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Date:      Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:45:59 -0500
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>, Max Khon <fjoe@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= <gabor@t-hosting.hu>, Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r228143 - in head: . share/mk tools/build/options
Message-ID:  <4EF1D507.7040402@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4EF13F23.9060601@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201111291946.pATJkHMs064094@svn.freebsd.org> <20111220171740.X1005@besplex.bde.org> <8CCE4DDE-B203-42FF-A2FA-9106403DE077@FreeBSD.org> <201112200908.57306.jhb@freebsd.org> <4EF13F23.9060601@FreeBSD.org>

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On 12/20/11 9:06 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 06:08, John Baldwin wrote:
>> The defaults for src.conf should be for the common case
>
> Agreed. The problem we seem to be missing here is that developers are
> not even statistically significant in measuring "the common case."

Users using freebsd-update don't care (they aren't building the world).

Having the profiled libraries installed does not negatively impact
users.  However, it requires extra effort for application developers
(not necessarily just kernel developers) who want to profile the 
applications they are working on.  I think application developers is a 
larger portion of our userbase than you are allowing for.

However, that notwithstanding, profiled libraries are not actually 
costing users anything (except for ones who build world by hand), but 
removing them from default installs does remove functionality.

-- 
John Baldwin



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