From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Aug 22 18: 0: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D33737B422 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23465; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:59:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008230059.CAA23465@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM with magazine X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-advocacy In-Reply-To: <8nv4aj$2617$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-advocacy Marc Schneiders wrote: > 1. Info about the expected date for the release of 4.2. It would look > very silly if the magazine came out with 4.1 and 4.2 is there a week > later (or earlier...) November 15th, I think. > 2. Examples of CD-ROM's other than the 'official' one. That is a full > CD. They won't give me that, I think. Examples of a 'distro' > (sorry) of 300 MB would be great.Are there any? > > 3. Would it look very bad to leave out most of src from the CD? For an "open source" project it would probably look somewhat bad. On the other hand, space on a magazine's CD-ROM is probably very limited, and sources are useful for only a small number of users (except kernel sources, of course). You should at least include a clear advise where to find the sources (FTP, CVSup, whatever). > Say > only include src/sys material? But then sysinstall would have to be > tweaked, right? Well, it depends. If a user selects "everything" in the distribution sets menu, the installation will fail because some sets are missing. If you want to avoid that, you'll have to tweak sysinstall, indeed. Otherwise, if you trust the users to be wise enough to not select anything that's not on the CD, you'll be OK with the original sysinstall (however, be sure to include some docs that point out clearly that fact). Take a look at the ISO images at ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CD-ROM-images/4.1-RELEASE/ There are two "barebones" ISO images. The first one is about 210 Mbytes; it contains the complete base system (with all sources) plus XFree86. If you have a 300 Mbyte limit, then you still have 90 Mbyte left to include some important packages, like a few shells, editors, clients, maybe one or two window managers and some small X apps. Although the Gnome crowd will hate you if you include KDE, and vice versa, and there's probably no space for both. ;-) Be careful to include all packages which are required by dependencies [1]. The second ISO is even just 83 Mbytes. There is no X, and some less important distribution sets have been omitted. It contains just bin, catpages, compat*, crypto, ports and src/ssys (kernel sources only). Maybe that gives you some ideas. Regards Oliver PS: [1] For finding out package dependencies, I've written a small script. It's very helpful when putting packages on CD-ROMs. I've used it extensively for the German Lehmanns editions of FreeBSD. You can find it here: http://www.fromme.com/scripts/pkg_dep -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message