From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 23:59:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9D516A41F for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D792D43D49 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.14] (imini.samsco.home [192.168.254.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAINxp87003461; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:59:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <437E6AF7.1040402@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:59:51 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon References: <20051117010651.97608.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com> <437D6F30.3060903@tasam.com> <200511181923.jAIJNHwW012453@apollo.backplane.com> <200511181434.38829.jhb@freebsd.org> <200511182254.jAIMsdDT013394@apollo.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200511182254.jAIMsdDT013394@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7-CURRENT-SNAP009-i386-bootonly.iso on Shuttle XPC w/ AMD X2 (was Re: Side note on Shuttle XPC) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:59 -0000 Matthew Dillon wrote: > :... > :> Is there an SMP i386 ISO I can try? Maybe one with standard unix > :> commands on it so I can play around? > : > :Try the Fixit CD option. The disc1 ISO is a Fixit CD now. You have to > :download disc1.iso though rather than bootonly.iso, bootonly.iso just has the > :sysinstall bits and nothing else. disc1 has the distributions themselves as > :well as the full Fixit layout. > : > :-- > :John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > :"Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org > > Ok, 7-CURRENT-SNAP009-i386-disc1.iso downloaded, installed... that > works a lot better though the emergency holographic shell on ttyv4 is > completely useless. Instead of making people to go into 'fixit' mode > with an option, just throw the binaries onto the CD natively like we > do so a shell just works without having to do any special setup. It's > also a lot more convenient to have a complete system sitting there for > recovery or comparison purposes if you just want to mount the CD rather > then boot from it. The fixit mode of disc1 is a full live filesystem. It's probably a bit confusing and cumbersome because we haven't fully divorced sysinstall from the mfsroot filesystem. I doubt that this will happen before a new installer gets integrated. > > In anycase, this kernel does appear to boot ok SMP, and the devices > work, with the exception of NVE which is kinda half-baked (has the > watchdog issue) previously discussed. It also only negotiates 100BaseTX, > so you need to add GiGE support as well. As mentioned previously, you > can enable GiGE through the MII interface by using the defacto standard > speed extension bit. > > Interrupts appear to be routed properly, so going through ACPI link is > definitely the ticket. If I boot without ACPI interrupts are completely > broken. > > I was incorrect in my previous comment about the bootonly CD not > appearing to boot in SMP. I had forgotten to update the BIOS on this > particular XPC which is why it didn't see the second core on the X2. > That's an important point, by the way... if people have problems with > the XPC make sure they have updated to the latest BIOS. Updating the > BIOS without a floppy drive is trivial, just construct the MSDOS boot > floppy on a windows box, throw in the Shuttle flash programmer and > BIOS update file, and burn a CD with the image. Boot the CD in the > shuttle and you're good. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > So the amd64 snapshot didn't boot but the i386 one did? Interesting. Thanks a lot for investigating this. Scott