From nobody Fri Apr 5 14:26:33 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VB15J5zzPz5GYYd for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick.macklem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x432.google.com (mail-pf1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VB15J42P2z4DDS; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick.macklem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pf1-x432.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6ecfd29f65dso892491b3a.0; Fri, 05 Apr 2024 07:26:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1712327203; x=1712932003; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=GON+WPW6YwNqLnDTjt0M1/pmYIe7ejJREK7E+LTvc5o=; b=kVdi6XuZc//hsqLItf/BYk0JG9lbh9Ux/Hr3z/c4m7w4Nqc1eyp1hrBvzlttrEnCJi XEWTVkiPTLGJbodSgOPS5N0X6qmBqEy/AF7rLCBJrMrINV95FXZ/k9EO8Mqcdl0EYtyb ss6dvQGpUfuu7WxW/9Hpc5P9DTEr6HKVh4Kba+tGYcsAllaHrUibaC0FOyVzqT/xqbYG zVnrR4qkRHsc9BJaBmG21hX79g1kU8j8yAHAI69HBlPWlM8dwIpBByHGOtGs9FEShNTG oZCMK3rIaTs884fp/zfRVRDBatKtEXnHOe3MKppUOER0Jg8RzL8NrMIbD//avinXL7ks sQOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1712327203; x=1712932003; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=GON+WPW6YwNqLnDTjt0M1/pmYIe7ejJREK7E+LTvc5o=; b=jXzFujjS8UseiPlVk2OFI/mkuAGL4H+YqkIqzs/wQvDd38S73ynVYJlkSkg4oszr3d ruyEoJSbGzMymKzNgSI0CA1fvBUBYbhf3uZXGZom3kokaW7vVuWMavOb/PsJGm4lt2d2 Nn5pkaQmUME0xO21OhoXX+z5Xhz62lahm/cdV1jzyAa5sqG/cBCR8Fp/UhOfSqPi3cGd sAD1plfopE+6T+kywL6yB1HcicayGIdEYkxM8+8WqRvbj6I2YQFCdTnUcBDvY+aFZPRu vckA/2m0C+A3tBvfaPOTlohBM4xLpTjTDcDtnEV6NrTNR/9q8JYKYClZ7SPclUeumEcf IzHQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX/zZ82g1sJvJzTulsQes/48Dv2JLrkVdpGnssWrNv2ns0NUSdMhS7W3PxqIEwWW3BPPmrkCPC9xg8EHBpdG3JlX0XjvwZMFUOoUALN6FJH3XW1bIrgxcALy0C776kp9cQ= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyR0CwYB/jAwyFWpGVmf9ahOCC5dxkjo6s8AOPslcHUDf30yCwv 9qjOyKziH+qk8fJgdNICxLeFlod3zvSvhP0Yt3h0FL9Bd2wXzCH1PeCG/oQHG4ZvPl7qVFuC14F smJhIJmG86nvmmcgTL9ScjwGosg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEckNTu3Gxp3PuPmyVHDkUyx0DkhAjSkinHktlQg6IwrTFIZH3rTMg8G21I87kMnBuJla3nBOcs3PdhoO9T7hc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:244e:b0:1a7:e94:3d22 with SMTP id t14-20020a056a20244e00b001a70e943d22mr1900043pzc.0.1712327203249; Fri, 05 Apr 2024 07:26:43 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202404050543.4355hDcS009860@critter.freebsd.dk> <202404051354.435Ds1KX086243@critter.freebsd.dk> <202404051418.435EIalt087360@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202404051418.435EIalt087360@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Rick Macklem Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 07:26:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SEEK_HOLE at EOF To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: alan somers , Alan Somers , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VB15J42P2z4DDS On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 7:18=E2=80=AFAM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > -------- > alan somers writes: > > > The draft spec specifically says "all seekable files shall have a virtu= al hole > > starting at the current size of the file". > > I have never subscribed to the notion that people standardizing C and UNI= X were > particular competent, so that carries no water with me. Sure, but choosing to be non-conformant just creates portability problems. rick > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetenc= e. >