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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:55:58 -0700
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        Pertti Kosunen <pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: rc.order wrong (ipfw) 
Message-ID:  <20070316215558.6D33F45047@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:40:44 %2B0200." <45FA9E5C.1060404@pp.nic.fi> 

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> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:40:44 +0200
> From: Pertti Kosunen <pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> 
> JoaoBR wrote:
> > I don't agree to what you say
> > what sense does it make to have my forward rules up but natd still not?
> > what sense does it makes logging while syslog is not up?
> 
> What would it forward & log when network isn't up?

Hmm. Let's see. Maybe the stuff that happens between the start of the
network and the start of ipfw?

Remember that, by default, until ipfw starts, there is a default
65535 deny ip from any to any
in the firewall, thus blocking everything until ipfw starts.

You should either not build ipfw into the kernel or build with the
IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option if you want something to be able to
pass through the network before ipfw starts. (Hint, if you run IPv6, you
probably do.)
-- 
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