From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 23:53:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21315106566C for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABEF8FC13 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (adsl-241-169-177.bna.bellsouth.net [74.241.169.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8MNrBNC005248 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:53:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <19e9a5dc0909221632s6ea2cbffx8c87e614640a578d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <19e9a5dc0909211728m159c1b50id00dec2b3f8110b0@mail.gmail.com> <20090922101329.K39832@ury.york.ac.uk> <200909221231.27713.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20090922174713.B39832@ury.york.ac.uk> <19e9a5dc0909221042l4f5a3e13p27776ee8bbc9713e@mail.gmail.com> <20090922225905.GC21416@lonesome.com> <19e9a5dc0909221632s6ea2cbffx8c87e614640a578d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: FreeBSD Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:53:06 -0500 Message-Id: <1253663586.2057.30.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: Mark Linimon , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Various problems seen in RC1 (was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:53:15 -0000 On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 20:32 -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Sorry about that sir. I never meant it that way, I understand > resources are limited and I hope you can understand I never meant to > imply "nobobdy seems to care" actually meant "absolutely nobody". What > I meant to say was "I did make my finding public but got no answers, > or questions about it" and since I don't know what are devels working > on in a given point in time, it was impossible for me tell for sure > whether somebody saw it or not, or cared about it or not. All I could > do was make it public, and that's all I did. I think that you can reasonably expect that most devs will respond to your email within a reasonable period of time if they are in a position to work your issue. If enough information is provided in the original mail to look into the issue I usually will try and respond with a patch if I can, otherwise usually you can expect queries for additional information or debugging patches. But in any case silence usually means that issue didn't make it into anyones queue to work on and likely was forgotten. I tend to average around 500 emails a day, so I'm sure that you can imagine how things could get dropped... Filing a PR is no guarantee that the issue won't get dropped either, but at least it is recorded somewhere in a searchable / trackable form. An occasional ping to the mailing list asking about a PR can also often revive a topic. robert. -- Robert Noland FreeBSD