From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 8 7: 3:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCD037B403 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([64.228.155.124]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010708140321.HESZ15384.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:03:21 -0400 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f68E0iA37243; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:00:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <004201c107b6$9fd25ad0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Munish Chopra" , References: <20010707132458.D75626@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010707144259.Q550-100000@consult-meyers.com> <20010708090243.U75626@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010708022223.D271@arcadia.megadeb.org> <20010708143601.A80862@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010708115623.F271@arcadia.megadeb.org> Subject: Re: XFS (was: ReiserFS (was: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help)))a Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:02:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 02:36:01PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Sunday, 8 July 2001 at 2:22:23 +0200, Munish Chopra wrote: > > > > > > I'm still more impressed by XFS (on paper), but I've never run it on > > > Linux myself. From those that have though, I hear it's very good, and > > > the SGI folks seem to be putting a lot of work into key areas. Some of > > > the kiddie diseases are wearing off apparently, and it's actually > > > maturing nicely. > > > > Agreed, it seems like quite a good design to me too. I have heard > > recently, however, that they needed to make a number of changes to the > > Linux kernel in order to get it to perform acceptably, and that Linux > > may not accept these changes. I don't know any details, however. > > Well, let's see. IIRC, this was because of the Linux VFS layer, which > has been ripped out, re-done, re-implemented, and just generally changed > many many times. Often the changes weren't minor, and coupled with some > of the other stuff going on in the kernel, I'm sure it would break > things (and it did breat many things). > > Then, there've been some more or less behind-the-scenes fights about > what kind of changes will be accepted for Linux. I remember a few > myself, though these related to IBM. Considering SGI and how much it's > betting on Linux, this type of stuff is becoming something of a brick > wall for them. So why don't we get a FreeBSD port of XFS done "real soon now", see what kind of kernel mods we have to make, and talk nice to the SGI folks? If they're running into brick walls at every turn on the Linux path, why don't we make the FreeBSD path look like the yellow brick road? It may be a great way to get some SGI resources headed the way of FreeBSD. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message