From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:00:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB45F106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400358FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4TBxpUH042634; Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kevin Downey" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 05:00:57 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Downey [mailto:redchin@gmail.com] >=20 > Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post. Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting and the entire response. > In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times does a > lot of by hand html writing because it just gets you better html. Of course it does. And I would expect a really professional site to do so. But, your not paying attention to what he is saying: "... trying to determine exactly what causes firefox and konq to = diverge..." An html author who writes by hand MUST know about ALL browser=20 idiosyncracies. The OP does not want to know this or he would have TESTED with all browsers years ago. And the context indicates he really doesen't want to know. "...I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning curve..." Have you visited this guy's website and actually READ it? This isn't a stupid person here. Anyone who gets an engineering degree is perfectly capabably of surmounting the learning curve. He DOESEN'T WANT TO DO IT. His website IS NOT the usual "techie" website full of instructions on how to write better html, use this, that and so on. He's simply not interested in that - at least, not enough to actually want to spend any time learning an HTML editor. He doesen't WANT to surmount the learning curve, it is NOT that he CAN'T DO IT. What he wants is a shortcut, a means to QUICKLY get what he has to say online, with minimal work, that will look OK in all browsers. He doesen't want the world's greatest website. He just wants it good enough so that people will read his philosophy, which is what he is really interested in. Not all this html stuff. This comprises the VAST MAJORITY of all people posting stuff to the web. Of course, most of them are using template sites, or myspace, or facebook, or whatever. You might think a facebook user isn't a web designer, but she thinks she is. She is doing the same thing a web designer does - put her information onto the web so other people can read it. And she is using a CMS that takes care of all the icky details of making her stuff look the same across all browsers. Ted