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Joe Altman <fj@panix.com> writes:

> [copying the original poster in my somewhat related followup]
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:01:06PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > Dr Lyman Hazelton <lrh@alum.mit.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > Perhaps this is discussed somewhere, but so far I haven't found 
> > > anything that helps.
> > 
> > "How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media?"
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT
> 
> These conditions are "anded", right?

Which conditions are you referring to?

> While I'm asking silly questions: is there a way to exclude certain
> devices or directories from the effects of updating world? In my
> experience, it seems rare that MAKEDEV must be run, but it would be
> nice if /var/mail were left at 1777 across updates; a bonus if, once I
> changed perms around on a device like the cdrom, it stayed changed.

I use MAKEDEF.local to store my changes to device permissions.