Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:36:55 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Richards <paul@netcraft.co.uk> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk (Gary Palmer) Cc: paul@freebsd.org, terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netware gateway. Message-ID: <199508141536.QAA03309@server.netcraft.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1791.808413120@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Aug 14, 95 04:12:00 pm
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In reply to Gary Palmer who said > > >A 128Kb link from Pipex is $60,000 !!! You've got no chance of > >getting a class C address unless you get a leased line. It's > >basically accepted here now that if you get a dial-up connection > >you'll be allocated nothing more than a single ip address. > > I went and re-read my stuff, Demon charge #1,000 setup and #600/month > for a 64k leased line. Trouble is, unless you are accessing a LOT of > UK based services (for which we have a relatively good link to > ja.net), it's probably better going with another ISP. I think Pipex > have something like 4 T1's going across the pond now. > > >BT, the only telcom big enough to really service the internet here > >has a stranglehold on leased lines, a 64Kb leased line is $9000 to > >rent, that's just the physical cable. You have to pay an ISP for > >the internet service on top of that. > > Yes, but Energis and Mercury both do leased lines, and somewhat > cheaper than BT from what I hear. I tried both Energis and Mercury and neither provided leased lines. Energis are only a long-haul provider, you still have to get a BT dedicated line installed at each end to the BT exchange. Mercury didn't know what I was talking about, maybe they've got better sales staff now. Demon's leased line prices are actually not too bad, they weren't offering leased lines when I looked into it in January. They're having enough problems dealing with dial-up traffic though and I wouldn't trust a heavily loaded commercial line to them. For our particular case we want good connectivity to us from everywhere, rather than needing to connect out to specific places, so a good backbone is important. I wish Janet would get their act together and start offering commercial services (150 Mbit backbone, comapared to 1 or 2Mb by most commercial providers). -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home)
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