From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 11 02:02:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5F516A4CE for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:02:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FDE43D3F for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.136.200]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040811020212.SVCV22385.out006.verizon.net@[192.168.1.3]>; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: <41197E24.2030305@mac.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:02:12 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20040811002008.GC15795@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20040811002008.GC15795@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.161.136.200] at Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:02:12 -0500 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Top posting solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:02:13 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB wrote: [ ...badly quoted stuff... ] > I apologize in advance if I jump in in what might sound like a > knit-picking manner. However, if this "fix" produces messages like the > one above, where all the usual mutilation of Outlook regarding quoting > and wrapping the text is clearly visible... > > it's not a fix :-( Giorgos-- it would be reasonable to assume that JJB was using the tool he speaks of, only that would not be correct; oe-quotefix doesn't work with Outlook itself: ] From: JJB ] Subject: RE: Top posting solution ] Message-id: ] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) [ Only someone condemned to support Windows users would want to understand the relationship between Outlook and OE in more detail, so suffice it to say that the two are much more different than one might expect from the shared name. ] Anyway, the oe-quotefix utility actually does do a pretty good job of fixing the braindead quoting of Outlook Express. But I'd much rather use Mozilla than Outlook from the standpoints of both security and only mildly broken mail composition by comparision. But then, I'd rather use Mail.app than Mozilla. For that matter, I'd rather use Emacs with fill-mode on and fill-column set to 76-- for two levels of quoting and a space to fit into 80-cols without wrapping-- to actually compose ASCII text than anything else. oe-quotefix behaves very much like what M-q (fill-paragraph) does in Emacs. -- -Chuck