From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 17:56:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 634688D5 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD9323CB for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 17:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23412 invoked from network); 29 May 2014 17:55:51 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 29 May 2014 17:55:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=2515.538774a8.k1405; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=5iu3nfSER8vnnQ1PysF8mZAfoQBBhUNc2HsFDwacSDI=; b=IXYpveXBluOe52ilVrBzwPvT0Vp/cjTr3Gq3cLcXTumuNZ/nam1fHqcry3MdlwVc3q1/FZTORhgUwfsmZcrnPcVKioy6mHsYsvZqeA7UtSqpv0rDfy0lY8TBnB1knWEWigCw/JKkSeVxV6oCXaAlnXkM8jEIb8HtajLOL830Z1cVSI6r5ryDuqfo2fe1c4Jfu3QntO1WFzOMCWC9guitf7bPTR7KqaOAdwESotBA3/Fe/Z5w04SeJCaZIZ9tQZjL Date: 29 May 2014 17:55:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20140529175530.9492.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please configure this list to subscriber-only, was contact your bank immediately In-Reply-To: <20140529144617.6271902f@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: rwmaillists@googlemail.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 17:56:01 -0000 >> It’s really becoming a PITA to stay on the list. > >It is really trivial to filter out. I use a separate address for lists >and filter anything that lacks either an appropriate List-Id or an >appropriate domain in a References header. The in-list spam is >negligible. Today there seems to be as much spam as real mail, and more meta-spam than either. Every other list I'm on limits posting to subscribers which stops the spam dead. Nearly all the spam is just blasted out at random and the list's address happens to be one of the million targets. It's very rare in my experience for a spammer to go to the effort of signing up for a list to spam through it. R's, John