From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 23:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC62BF0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B1E8FC19 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.216] by nm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 23:01:20 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.109] by tm9.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 23:01:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 23:01:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1355353280; bh=VGHGV3dQb59HVE7vpW9kZDNwYOHXDRQjX57s4ZosjrI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6j7Ec/I6bQT+sVT3OROa53QPir4VVRiDHrFCRiwo4/zkyiLpmgQmjJ5/MYKZJAS8Ydvf86CXYPRBC7WdXTIq4uQWczhpc3I361tNmqOcTxGU14mcxgMgoXG+5WpuTus5QLPz2jJysSbSXfOnvO+JrfMCDlj04m9WI8oRdyweE2Y= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 356652.54316.bm@smtp110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: yzWwmHgVM1lpaUVrvO_0ZwZO3qcRiYqFOXVjlqrE_R6y66p H9ZHRFhX_bxmgsWj0Q7CBJLxJGLkeospQaBTeCyeTYi3Wt1HqGlxtnBSLb4q pYCkXlI9QQiOFDlybAOjr4S1A5TJ8SHPQn7V1GpaAkkwFIuqRouAumS6hl2E EHAIm2GtDZmYq4EGc1t6zPHHjLImPh07mIUesEv3QsyQ7yDFL.SUaEV0q2Ch WhOgL.pRfm8hzz6B4sUWDKCY_oGtlOsEL7CoeLgKHC6j3Gz3b8x4usO3JWax Wa4a2Rr_6_En0ONPnuS2t7UZZM1Lr50NkLkIAOavpn3pSphkVswOJi4XW.nw QYHKKSBIawE2kziR.nFEwlZ62.x2CVDOBXM.PEUPVqRnTrAJfS1qeuxKXtbA zAMJQDq9XMFESpztuP3KSfIWf.m0UlRmfVKvnuAuYNg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.20.73] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.20.73 with login) by smtp110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 15:01:20 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1355353279.2651.45.camel@q> Subject: Re: Why 24/192kHz sound is not a solution. From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:01:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1354723094926-5766828.post@n5.nabble.com> <1354786833.6430.8.camel@q> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:01:22 -0000 On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 08:27 -0800, VDR User wrote: > No offense but it's always the people with little-to-no experience & > knowledge that seem to think they know what's > right/good/proper/correct/enough. I worked as a professional audio and video engineer, among others for well known companies/artists. I never was missing anything at 48 KHz, when using professional equipment. I started working professional in the age of 16, today I'm 46 years old, not working in that business any more, but I did for nearly 30 years. My two TerraTec cards do sound better at 96 KHz than on 48 KHz, but even consumer Aiwa and Sony DAT recorders do sound better at 48 KHz, than the TerraTec at 96 KHz, not to mention outdated professional recorders did use 48 KHz only. > You have to realize that there's far more than nyquist > in play. At the very least you need to consider the source signal, > what kind of processing needs to be done, What has the kind of processing to do with the sample rate? I guess for the processing the bit depth and floating point are important. > and how it will be delivered > sonically in post. Audio can be manipulate in scores of different ways > and the different methods & algorithms used to do so perform at > different levels. In other words, what works well at X may not be as > efficient or produce the same results at Y. For example? Regards, Ralf