From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 01:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D01065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67A18FC19 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n8S1bnSX030705 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:37:49 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n8S1bmbS030704; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:37:48 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id D04F9BE4C; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:34:36 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (message from Aflatoon Aflatooni on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT)) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:37:51 -0000 >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), >> Aflatoon Aflatooni said: A> I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only A> internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail... First things first: if you're happy with Sendmail and your system works to your satisfaction, I'd leave it be. Just watch your logs and keep an eye out for security patches. A> I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. There are fanboys on all three sides of that question ("yes", "no", and "qmail bites, use this-other-MTA instead"). I switched from sendmail to qmail on a server because I had an odd corner case that qmail happened to handle just about perfectly. I also botched a qmail install on my own workstation, didn't feel like finding out what I did wrong, and decided to install Postfix instead. I've had fine experiences with both qmail and Postfix. If you're using a system that's a little under-powered, you might appreciate Dr. Bernstein's efforts to make qmail and its supporting tools *very* frugal with OS resources. If you're used to the sendmail way of doing things, you'd probably be better off with Postfix. I like Dr. Bernstein's programming approach, but be prepared to spend time getting used to his way of setting up network daemons, etc. It's internally consistent but *very* different. It takes me 30-40 minutes to install all of the qmail stuff from source because I've done it at least 6 or 7 times; I could probably cut that in half if I didn't save build and installation outputs for my logs. My first time took most of a weekend to figure out what was going on. A> Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? I tried SA a few years ago, and it was a little heavy-weight for my filtering needs. I use a simple Bayesian filter (ifile) trained on around 100,000 spams plus some procmail rules, and I get along fine. Your mileage will vary. I saw some other comments: >> Qmail is not, nor has it been, actively supported for years. Depends on what you mean by support. The user community is very active; have a look at http://www.ornl.gov/lists/mailing-lists/qmail/ if you doubt it. OTOH, said community can be a bit, um, brusque, but the Qmail Handbook and the "Life with Qmail" webpage filled in the blanks for me. >> Qmail has a very limited set of features... It's intended to handle one problem well, which it does. If you have some other requirements, http://www.qmail.org/ probably has a plugin that will do what you want. OK, now let's settle which text editor is best. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company They say marriages are made in heaven. So is thunder and lightning. --Clint Eastwood