From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 25 23:08:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89D516A41C for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9273743D54 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 23:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 642B75142D; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:08:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jon Dama Message-ID: <20050525230848.GA62267@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3248.172.16.0.199.1116876092.squirrel@172.16.0.1> <200505252342.01938.freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk> <20050525214555.GA41695@xor.obsecurity.org> <200505260014.37054.freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk> <20050525223811.GA58132@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen , Mike Jakubik , Matthias Buelow , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 23:08:02 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 04:02:58PM -0700, Jon Dama wrote: > It's different, yes. But the trouble is that you need a controlled > interrupt source--i.e., you have to have some concept of when an "event" > might have been handled (were it not for such and such activity). >=20 > I posit that without that counterfactual talking about PREEMPTION is > meaningless. >=20 > The technique I mentioned--measuring and comparing the jitter was intended > to quash measuring the performance of the network stack itself. >=20 > Do you have an idea how you can pose that counterfactual in a synthetic > arrangement more closely connected with the problem at hand? Nope..that's why I said it was a hard thing to study. Well-controlled benchmarking of FreeBSD is always welcome, so please feel free to proceed with your tests and let us know of anything interesting you identify. Kris --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFClQWAWry0BWjoQKURAv5PAKDT09jP/GauM6n0pfSu+RWWoCGJbQCgi7Xu 8bA+YDHBdBJtOPmK42Vg8Oc= =73j/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf--