From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 22 20:11:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA18524 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 20:11:50 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA18518 ; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 20:11:46 -0700 Received: from trumpet.etnet.com (trumpet.etnet.com [129.45.17.35]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA08599; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 23:28:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 23:28:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199510230328.XAA08599@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Bragging rights.. Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan spouts... >I think we're arguing at cross purposes. I'm talking about what the end-user wants and >you're telling me what they SHOULD want and, in Dennis's ideal world, would want. Sorry, >but you clearly haven't been a user in nearly long enough to have informed opinions about >that anymore - you have a high speed sync serial "hammer" and now you insist that >everything looks like a nail. You're just wrong about everything. I think that its pretty funny that you think that you have more perspective than I do. The only perspective that you have thats better than mine is that you seem to be poor....and yes, I don't remember that very well. I am a user, and I've been a user more than anyone, and I've also been in the market and seen what my customers are doing. I dial-up from home, and I maintain the router at ET. People buy what is presented to them....if they understood the choices they would buy sync 128k. But they don't understand the choices so they buy whats cheap. They don't understand the choices and neither do the ISPs. Datacomm in this country is a freaking mess........Anyone wants to be an ISP on LI give me a call.... Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25