From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Dec 25 10:33:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FAA14DEA; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 10:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06877; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:32:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:32:01 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, sos@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: using vgl Message-ID: <19991225123201.A6180@futuresouth.com> References: <19991225030910.A15516@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 01:07:50PM -0500, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Tim Tsai wrote: > > > I'm trying to do some work based on vgl but it appears that it is tied to > > syscons and any vgl programs must be started off a console. Is there any > > way I can start a vgl program from a remote terminal (but have the output > > be displayed on the local VGA screen) without writing a proxy of some > > kind? > > Err... why do you want to do that? Even if it's a big program, it should > be properly written so that the frontend and backend can be separate > and network-transparent, if that's to be its purpose. So the big question > is, why aren't you using X11? Because I want to? :-) Okay, this particular FreeBSD box is connected to a scan converter and the output is displayed on my TV. Sitting in front of the console is not real practical literally as the computer is nicely tucked away. It just seems weird to have vgl so tied to syscons when one of the big advantages of Unix has always been remote accessibility. We run more than a dozen FreeBSD machines at work and I've never sit in front a console other than for emergency maintenance. Think about a possible embedded systems project where you might use VGL to display some banners - it would make sense to be able start/stop a vgl program without being in front of the console. X11 is way too big for what I need. I just need some simple VGA graphics on my TV. I suppose I'll end up writing a small console program that can start up my program if no better solution exists. When I said "proxy" I don't mean client/server by any means. I just mean a way to start a console program without being on the console. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message