From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 20 11: 3:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F437B416; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE24577C; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3KI3dp48405; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:03:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:03:39 -0500 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory Message-ID: <20020420130339.B48286@sheol.localdomain> Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com References: <20020419225855.E7E575D05_ptavv.es.net@ns.sol.net> <20020419181021.X18267-100000_zoot.corp.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> <200204200256.g3K2uOu10038@sheol.localdomain> <20020420111130.C6261@brel.com> <20020419224846.A10089@sheol.localdomain> <15552.58959.247799.490618@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020419225859.B10089@sheol.localdomain> <15553.40425.490351.72629@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15553.40425.490351.72629@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 09:57:13AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Apr 20, at 09:57 AM, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > >> I have reverted the sendmail_enable part of the /etc mega-mfc so once > >> again, sendmail_enable defaults to YES as it always has in RELENG_4 > >> (-STABLE). > > hawkeyd> And Doug is OK with it (i.e., doesn't that fly against his "everything > hawkeyd> off" approach"?)? If he is, then y'all are already at the edge of the > hawkeyd> proverbial slippery slope to regression, no? > > Doug's commit was to reduce diffs to -HEAD but it had a side effect that > wasn't mentioned anywhere. If the decision is made to turn off all network > services for 4.6 and both UPDATING and the release notes are updated to > warn users ahead of time, I'm perfectly happy to change this back. > However, the current situation of an undocumented side effect of the MFC > was unacceptable in my opinion. Well, I was on the wrong track with my original protestation, according to Calvin, and as I missed Doug's original "Head's Up", I'm taking Calvin's word for it. I'm in the dark as to the details of Doug's commit, and the "why" of it. My main concerns now are stated in my last reply to Calvin. Those, and as another had written [that I had neglected to write], that POLA is adhered to. Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message