From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 7 08:46:06 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DDD4FDF3D for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 08:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x431.google.com (mail-pf1-x431.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::431]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DYN6N4lGWz3tZ9 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 08:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x431.google.com with SMTP id m6so7760920pfk.1 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:46:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UVpwDjSk0slmQJJ6umtltf6pGIrgdHwUZnugGr+grnM=; b=n+yMC7Xa1we6RHhPspnWINOhpcYN7MaGjmePFPj/73lrKDNlNzgXGHGLrR1kIOAUZC vWxlQyyzD2ijAiqzaNnDebjvbdB97dEG20vmBbSetVELxEreQkxMH6VG012KZ4573ac3 7de1PtEGUedxCtmpTragWWWK0AK/AdYbr10s7t+iAxtX/m9A+6MDfSJ8V8ukGPYpfcsP BC7IK7dT2oTQ1Qr6iNWh64A+hVPI0stS1TzI0Yud+N1DoVWult9T4SVwtCVC90pD8o5J sdW1oZL/CEIxCihv1ud4L7xasa8qLhFpUjUpMxQQI9OEe+X39kwr3IHeos8VRYJVKOcl nW5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UVpwDjSk0slmQJJ6umtltf6pGIrgdHwUZnugGr+grnM=; b=sIwmQI10LIinsPAoLo5g7Rr+cCKHLXaJ0rgRitwdRgDvWB+ZKxxFaqpLqAZ7vKMMB+ 1WomOmxeyPQW7GIg92qbBqp/2JEvqJ0yRIH8lePu1HdyUZY3EWWVG7H8AzP6oVyxN8qJ 6FutaNW20Ag9RRcI70ZIkmF0MaTmdtDQgOkldgn84fpqnLgapZfC0QlRLcTKgNl4BTXU PWM2v4ho4Zr5HaEPUX7M2enDV+DPjbQ4kvifPD8cATkSWhXY98+ZHDrCRMe0gjpKot/P 4SkeL06aJRfLmxSjnFxB7f3A/cYlFTBuTQRESRRwzmUYn0W7kkmzZe4vS69Qlt5bEPCo jBxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532W3xRzD/82u1Jmc+l5jirXaNkmuagRvdSbHO9WfCF/b1pCb8tF q5Le6HDegKsII/pOjXFKnR4zSB0M1wUIl09ibA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw2odCg7B5+fqMOceXpIRtZJ6fjajYjvzJFSN1ZUmigjpcK15G1mG5GglPAtbl+uQSXiCjrIrgII1V80VodsaY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1393:b029:1b4:7938:ff1d with SMTP id t19-20020a056a001393b02901b47938ff1dmr12550314pfg.31.1612687562846; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:46:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Paul Procacci Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 03:45:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggested upgrade for a GeForce GT 450 To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: Patrick Mahan , User Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DYN6N4lGWz3tZ9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=n+yMC7Xa; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pprocacci@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::431 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pprocacci@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.34 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.336]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:46:06 -0000 I stopped trying to use emulation long ago. It never worked right. Ok, that's actually an overstatement. It worked sometimes. Compile something simple w/ nvcc and if it was simple enough, sure it would work. Try something a bit more complex, you were sh*t out of luck. Tell ya what, I still have my GTX in my machine doing nothing: # pciconf -vl | fgrep -iA 2 -B 1 GTX vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'GM206 [GeForce GTX 950]' class = display subclass = VGA I'll go through the motions of getting the GPU offloading w/ the emulation layer working and if it does, I'll eat my words. ;) ~Paul On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:46 AM Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:27 AM Paul Procacci wrote: > >> I post how I like. If you don't like it, you're free to not respond and >> ignore my messages. >> If you can't follow, that's on you. >> >> No, the support with linux emulation is extremely limited. It's not >> usable in the least. >> If you plan on using CUDA, use Linux. >> > > Name one such limitation because in 25+ years of using FreeBSD and linux > emulation I have never found a serious difference between what can be done > in emulation vs. what can be done on an actual linux host (except for cases > where the program in question wanted a newer kernel then the one being > emulated but since CUDA has been around for a while now this is a > non-issue). I even found a few workarounds posted on the net on how to > get the nVidia driver to support CUDA natively (none of them official but > they still exist). So I will ask again if it can be made to work in any > way at all (even if a told hack) then it is incorrect to say CUDA is not > possible with nVidia on FreeBSD (yes very hard but not impossible). > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: