Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:57:15 -0700 From: Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zend Studio - some progress to report. Message-ID: <200510161557.16072.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510121639.28479.gerrit@beine-computer.de> References: <BF6BDDC9.34DCA%Shane@007Marketing.com> <200510101817.52633.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200510121639.28479.gerrit@beine-computer.de>
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On Wednesday 12 October 2005 07:39, the author Gerrit Beine contributed to= =20 the dialogue on- Re: Zend Studio:=20 >Am Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005 03:17 schrieben Sie: >> OK I am in touch with Zend and there is some hope that they may >> collaborate. >> >> I will let you know if/when I have something to report. >> >> The most interesting file is: >> ZendStudioClient-4.0.2-Linuxi386_plain.tar.gz >> I am working with Zend i9n the hope we might get that working. > >Hey, > >that would be great. >I like the ZendStudio and if it is possible to make it work again on > FreeBSD, I'll be really happy :-) > >So long... > >Gerrit OK Here is where we are at. I have reached agreement (see below) with Zend that they will assist in=20 building a freebsd port. The Zend development team is in Israel. The Zend=20 Studio's product manager will be liaising directly with us but he is going = to=20 be out of the office for two weeks. There have been a lot of communication= s=20 and the substance of them is summarized in the following copies: ******************************************************************* =46rom me to Zend: =09 I apologise for not making my understanding clear. My objective is to help, in the interests of everyone, to ease the path for= =20 freebsd users to use, and purchase, Zend studio without involving you in an= y=20 additional development work or testing. Freebsd users would not therefore=20 need you to provide support other than fixing bugs that are also replicable= =20 on linux. We therefore do not see a need for you to extend your QA beyond=20 ensuring it runs on linux. You may be asking how is that achievable? =46reebsd in /compat/linux/ extends full linux compatibility. In the freebs= d=20 community the ports maintainers are usually responsible for building and=20 maintaining the port from linux to freebsd To build the port we require a=20 limited amount of information. After the port is built, your support=20 obligation would be limited to dealing with bugs that are replicable on=20 linux. If there were questions relating to the port then freebsd users we receive= =20 assistance on the port via the freebsd ports maintainer. In that way you ge= t=20 the benefit of extending your potential user base and freebsd gains from it= s=20 users being able to run an extended range od applications. This is a win x= =20 win situation for everyone. How can we reach this desirable state? Because freebsd has linux compatibility building a port to freebsd for a li= nux=20 application should not require any modification to binaries unless the=20 developer has made the mistake of hardcoding external dependencies into the= =20 binary. To build the port for Zend all we ask you to do is supply us with a= =20 list of its dependencies and information about how we can configure the=20 application so that it able to find its its dependencies. The freebsd ports= =20 system checks to see that all dependcies are installed on the system, id no= t=20 dependencies are automatically built and installed, and that the=20 application's configuration file is amended accordingingly. If you could make a list of dependcies available and let me know how to=20 configure Zend so that it is able to locate any libraries or external=20 binaries it needs then I am sure we can build a working port simliar to the= =20 one we had for Zend 3.x It would be useful if we could have a single point of contact or email=20 address, in your development team with whom a freebsd port maintainer might= =20 be able to work. What do you think? Yours david ***************************************************************8 To which I have received the following reply: from Shahar Evron=20 =09 Hello David, No need to apologize - your point was clear and personally I am very happy = for=20 such initiatives - I was only trying to explain why Zend is having a hard=20 time helping anyone who wants to use Studio on FreeBSD. I think this can be excellent for the both of us - I have spoke about this= =20 with Zend Studio's product manager, and he also agrees that this is a win w= in=20 situation - he asked that you contact him at [I have withheld his email=20 address for obvious reasons here- david] and explain exactly what you need= =20 and he will try to help as much as possible. Please note that he will be ou= t=20 of the office for almost two weeks, but he asked that you write to him and = he=20 will try to answer when he gets back. I also suggest you to try out Zend Studio 5.0 beta - You can read more and= =20 download the beta version from=20 http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/beta.php - it might work=20 better than the 4.x branch. Please don't hesitate to contact us with any additional questions. *************************************8 here are my comments: 1. I do not have any experience of building or maintaining ports and feel=20 unqualified to undertake that task. Would someone, who is both capable and= =20 willing to come forward please come forward -- we need you.=20 2. I am willing to help in whatever way I can including testing. 3. It would be good if we could prepare an information request that can be= =20 sent to reach the Product manager in time for his return to the office. 4. I have tested the ZendStudio 5.0 beta and get the same result as I do wi= th=20 4.x 5. The standard package of Zend Studio 4.x installs the application but whe= n=20 one attempts to run Studio seems to be unable to load the debugging module.= =20 When I tried a Zend Studio version without an inbuilt jvm it progressed a=20 little further but still hunf up while trying to load the debugging routine. 6. My impression is that it is hung up either looking for a library or an=20 external binary. If you wish to help but do not want to go 'public' then please feel free to= =20 email me direct thanks david =2D-=20 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Tauru= s. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal afte= r=20 completing engineroom refit.
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