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Date:      Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:51:41 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Feature removal without replacement (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c src/sys/conf NOTES)
Message-ID:  <20020410095141.M9535@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20020409123111.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <17393.1018364044@critter.freebsd.dk> <XFMail.20020409123111.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tuesday,  9 April 2002 at 12:31:11 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 09-Apr-2002 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message <XFMail.20020409104454.jhb@FreeBSD.org>, John Baldwin writes:
>>
>>> Have you implemented the replacement yet? :)  In my mind it was kind of there
>>> as a reminder that we needed to do that.
>>
>> No I havn't and neither have anybody else it seems.
>>
>> And quite frankly, it doesn't look like the market pressure is there,
>> given the existence of the hints file.
>
> The replacement would specifically be a nice front-end to the hints concept
> that would manipulate the default hints set via the loader environment.  It
> might need an extra metadata file to match device drivers mentioned in the
> hints to human-readable text strings, etc.

Why do we need to cut Uesrconfig out until there's some replacement?
Specifically, what do people do when they're installing the system
from CD on an old ISA machine?  It looks like they're stuck.

I'm concerned about things being removed from the system just because
the committer in question doesn't see a need for them.  The same thing
happened with KTR_EXTEND; I can only conclude that you don't use
remote serial debugging, but by so doing you're further limiting the
number of people who are prepared to do low-level kernel debug work.
I think both of these commits should be backed out.

Greg
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