From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 18 11:58:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA26551 for current-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:58:15 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA26546 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:58:12 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04341; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:57:33 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199509181857.LAA04341@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Which SUP files are available and where ? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rkw@dataplex.net, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509181222.WAA23402@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Sep 18, 95 10:22:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1318 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >> As for the long term support, I think we should consider CTM as the > >> distribution mechanism rather than sup. > > >For those who have a high-speed net connection, CTM is a lose. It's > > This assumes an infinitely high-speed server or a small number of > clients. You run out of ethernet before you run out of CPU power on anything faster than a DX4/100 with 32MB of memory doing sup services. A Pentium 100 can keep a 100Mb/s pipe clear full of sup with 64Mb of memory. I would call that very very far from ``infinitely high-speed'' and actually falls into the mid-range systems for me. > > >too easy to get your source tree into a state where CTM decides that > >it can't do anything, and then you have to do manual repair, whereas > >with SUP you can just blow away the breakage and automatically get > >fresh copies with little or no human intervention. > > Use restore(8) to recover a consistent state. And now folks know why /usr/src is always a seperate partition on my systems, and on almost everything I sell :-). I do use restore a lot around here, infact installs are actuall ``restores'' of my last known good stable build :-) -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD