From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 12 13:44:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A85516A4DD for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: from outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com [67.138.240.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D846643D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:44:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: (qmail 29157 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jul 2006 13:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box122.bluehost.com) (67.106.44.122) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2006 13:44:20 -0000 Received: from [216.113.237.29] (helo=[10.10.6.20]) by box122.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G0f0m-0004qA-CR for mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:44:20 -0600 Message-ID: <44B4FCB0.8040809@dwinner.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:44:16 -0400 From: DW User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile@freebsd.org References: <20060711.104708.1159134898.imp@bsdimp.com> <44B3E18F.80300@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <44B3E18F.80300@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {731:box122.bluehost.com:dwinnern:dwinner.net} {sentby:smtp auth 216.113.237.29 authed with dwinner@dwinner.net} Cc: Subject: Re: Dell laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:44:26 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > On 07/11/06 11:47, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> What are the current problems, if any, on current Dell laptops have >> with FreeBSD? > > > I hope that the question is a sign that possible fixes would be on the > horizon. :) > > I have a Latitude D820 (Dual Core) (and have used a D810, D610, D600 > with FreeBSD also), and most things work, except suspend to ram (S3) > which Nate Lawson is looking into a bit (we've sent him a D610 to work > with for debugging) - currently, I can suspend, but resume causes an > instant reboot. > > Also, the high-definition audio does not work. I'd *love* to get this > working, and even looked into trying to port the azalia driver from > netbsd. > > As another poster mentioned, the extra buttons and FN buttons don't > seem to work, and there may be some acpi_video tweaks that need to > happen to make the external vga/lcd screen swapping happen like it > should. > > I can provide lots of details if needed, and am willing to debug. We > typically have spare Dell Latitude laptops for use in testing also. > > Eric > > Well, I know we're talking Dell notebooks here, I'm a Thinkpad guy myself, but it seems like the issues are very similar and IBM (I mean Lenovo!) and Dell are using many of the same components and presenting similar issues such as 3945 support (not good), versus alternative .11a/b/g atheros chipset support (good), and the new HiDef audio. I'd be interested in seeing where the support for this new HiDef audio goes. Do (did) the Dells use the same snd_ich driver that the Thinkpads have used? And if so I wonder if the new HiDefs are the same as well. Hopefully that get resolved soon, it is the only missing piece to slapping gold FreeBSD sticker on my new T60. (Well, I'll still need to futz with ACPI suspend/resume, but what else is new? Can be a pisser, but has never been a show stopper for me.) For what it's worth, I spent much time on the wireless and the bottom line is, if you can get your laptop (Dell or Thinkpad) shipped with either the 3945 or the Atheros, *pick the Atheros!* If it's not at option (boxed purchase from reseller, like my T60 from PCConnection), then buy an atheros after market and swap them out. Forget the 3945 for now. (Although I understand that the driver is going on openbsd, but hasn't been ported to FreeBSD yet. But still very experimental in openbsd?) -DW