From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 21:00:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC7374298 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD1mf3hTqz4HYx for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1595624403; x=1598216403; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=cGlobfXGyff5nTnbJbE/4cLkh4eJ9tAfWXI5YK3ijXM=; b=VtiRMcwQlGW2L5JhhF8bM6N84aVr5D+1v9Vxzb50ptODOzT3Pmzj9cSHsmhkgOlnimtV4pLyRmU6M51Vc3rJQ0yY95vWsm++qalZKqyWNVBZ9tm02roQ6f9C3Zoe/kPu95pbp8RrgKypVPmSNJCp+HPhqB/tTkka3fCHK5pjzks= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMjAwMDU4NWEyYzYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:59:52 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:59:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jz4nF-000NpV-I3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:59:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:59:49 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ask stupid questions and you'll get a stupid answers, was: Technological advantages over Linux Message-Id: <20200724215949.854b5bc9199b5ae2e6678dc0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> <58202623-bbf7-eda0-5cb5-fb4749e91e20@watters.ws> <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu> <800f33cd-0dc1-1ae9-2262-a374bf8c10dd@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200724170348.51f108ec@archlinux> <1273868562.6647660.1595604615652@mail.yahoo.com> <20200724183331.6363d69c@archlinux> <20200724210127.7d05e22bd81b95388adf32ba@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BD1mf3hTqz4HYx X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=VtiRMcwQ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.966]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.960]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.45)[-0.453]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c2000585a2c6.08af163fc21e938e700ea9490183f768@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:00:03 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:52:51 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Let add one more complication the client wants us to auto populate the > MySQL DB from our webapp DB which is on a physically separate machine, but > refuses to buy a second license for the device DB software and thus we are > forced to do our development/alpha testing on live data (i.e. we *MUST* > have completely working backups made every 15 mins or so). Ugh! I really don't miss end-user facing work :) There's something nice about having sysadmins as the most demanding customers. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/